bowhuntinmaniac said:
Wow Dan, such strong feelings...........actually you and I seem to think alike.
I didnt know they had segregated chair lifts.........didnt segregation go out in the 60's?
Actually, I know what you mean.........myself and 2 other guys started the Sunrise 3D shoot to raise money for a family that lost their father, a fellow bowhunter. After, the rez saw the money to be made, they took it over, and as far as I know, they still are the ones that run it.
The thing that really gets me, I am told over and over that they are a separate nation..........so, why do they get to come onto federal land and hunt at resident prices? Hmmmmmmm................ :roll:
Garth, I haven't been skiing at Sunrise since 1982. Back then, yes, they had two chair-lift operations. One was for "Apaches only", and the other lift was for all others. It peeved me so bad to see this blatant prejudice, I swore I'd never go back again to ski, and I haven't.
Then, about 1985 as I recall, I was fishing at Little Bear Lake, (across the road and down a bit from Horseshoe Cienega) with the family of some friends. While sitting on the shore fishing, surrounded by several other folks, (mostly natives) a WMAT G&F officer walked right up to me and asked to see my permit/license. After showing him, I asked why he singled me out of the group? He simply said... "you got a problem with that?" and he turned and walked away. The daughter of a friend of ours got sick that weekend, and asked if she could ride home with us, since her parents wanted to stay and we lived only 3 blocks away. On our way home, she asked if we would pull over as she thought she had to vomit. So, we pulled over, somewhere near Canyon Day. She got out, walked behind some trees to vomit and relieve herself of diarrhea and a WMAT policeman pulled in behind us. "What are you doing?", he asked. I told him about Tina being sick and he said "you need to get her in the car and get moving." I said "are you serious? He said... "you need a permit to be on the reservation, and since you don't have one, I can write you a ticket." Talk about a jerk!
Finally, along about 1988, I was driving to Whiteriver to watch a High School football game. I had to make a nature stop, so I turned at the John F. Kennedy School and headed north, up Cedar Creek, looking for a place to... well, you know. A WMAT policeman zoomed in behind me and asked me what I "was doing"? I told him and he said "you need to get going".
I'm not sure what the "attitude" is all about, or, where it stems from, but I've had about all I want from the Apache tribes. All is good, so long as you have paid for a permit. I find it strange that if you were a tourist and passing through there, and you wanted to stop and take a picture or two, you "could be" cited for not having a "Special Use Permit".
Nope, I'm not supporting the WM, Cibique, San Carlos or Tonto tribes anymore than I already have. I'll see you and others at the Clint Wells/Happy Jack shoot? LOL!