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I held off applying online because I was waiting for my new Cabela's card to get here. Well, it arrived today. Right after supper I went to apply online and got THIS:
Fall Draw Information - Updated on May 21, 2007

Online application process no longer available for Arizona 's fall hunts

Hunters applying after May 21 must submit paper applications only; deadline extended to June 26, 2007

The Arizona Game and Fish Department indefinitely suspended the online application process for big game hunts, including this fall's hunts for deer, bighorn sheep, turkey, javelina and buffalo, after the department determined it could not resolve concerns that its online service provider could adequately perform under its contract.

Hunters applying after May 21 must submit a paper application form by mail. Paper applications can also be hand delivered to department offices.

The application deadline for the fall hunts has been extended from June 12 to June 26. All applications must be received by the department by 7 p.m. (MST) on June 26; postmarks don't count.
 

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Dagnub it.. I was going to apply for sheep too. I guess i won't now - momma won't like that comin' out of the checking account!!
 

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ok guys tell you what i will do for u all i will call my contact at G&F tomorrow from work as long as i dont get caught ttee hhee and when i get home i will post what i find out ok? i cant log on at work for some reason they dont trust us :hahaha: :lol2:
 

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It said they couldn't work out issues with the vendor (or something to that effect)
 

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right but i will try and get more info from my contact at the office and will fill everybody in when i get home from work and that will be 4 pm tomorrow
 

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I just got this e-mail from AZGF

Online application process no longer available for Arizona's fall hunts
May 21, 2007

Hunters applying after May 21 must submit paper applications only;
deadline extended to June 26

The Arizona Game and Fish Department has indefinitely suspended the online application process for big game hunts, including this fall's hunts for deer, bighorn sheep, turkey, javelina and buffalo, after the department determined it could not resolve concerns that its online service provider could adequately perform under its contract.

Hunters applying after May 21 must submit a paper application form by mail. Paper applications can also be hand delivered to department offices.

The application deadline for the fall hunts has been extended from June 12 to June 26. All applications must be received by the department by 7 p.m. (MST) on June 26; postmarks don't count.

Printed application forms and 2007-08 Hunting and Trapping Regulations are available at all license dealers and department offices. They can also be downloaded from the department's Web site at azgfd.gov/draw.

"Hunters who already applied using the online process do not need to resubmit a paper application," says Harry Seck, assistant director for special services for the Arizona Game and Fish Department. "Their online applications will be valid for the fall big game draw, and we'll be mailing them letters to that effect."

Hunters submitting paper applications must remember to include their tag and application fees, and license fee, if they haven't already purchased a hunting license. Those fees can be submitted by personal check, cashier's check or money order.

Department officials suspended the online process on May 21 after canceling the contract with its online service vendor. At issue was the vendor's inability to meet a performance bond requirement, and this undermined the department's confidence in the vendor.

"We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause some of our customers," says Seck. "The department, however, could not accept what the vendor offered to resolve this issue."

The correction period for those applying with a paper form has been extended from May 30 to June 6. If a submitted paper application contains an error and is received by June 6, the department will make three attempts within a 24-hour period to notify the applicant by telephone, if a telephone number is provided on the application.

Despite the changes in the draw application process, there will be no effect on the draw itself or how it is conducted. Draw results will be available online at azgfd.gov no later than Aug. 10, and hunt permit-tags for successful applicants will be mailed out no later than Aug. 10.

Refund warrants will be mailed out no later than Aug. 24, a week later than originally scheduled.

The department will accept first-come applications for leftover tags, if available, beginning at 8 a.m. on Aug. 20, a week later than originally scheduled. First-come hopefuls must apply by mail only, using paper application forms.

The department also announced that the option to purchase hunting and fishing licenses online or by telephone has been suspended indefinitely.

"The application process may be changing, but we're doing everything we can to make sure this year's draw will run smoothly and with as little inconvenience to our customers as possible," says Seck.

More information on the fall big game draw can be found on the Arizona Game and Fish Department's Web site at azgfd.gov/draw.
 

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Well that sucks......

Just sent my daughter the info on how to do it online. Plus me and the youngest are in the same boat as the rest of the dilly-dallies even tho I have had my mind made up since the online regs were available.
 

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Printed application forms... can also be downloaded from the department's Web site at azgfd.gov/draw.
As long as I don't have to go to Wally-World to get an application then I can live with the paper application only process. Appears G&F has been hard pressed to find an online vendor worth their salt. Anyone know what ever happened to SCI-Nevada?
 

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Does anybody know what other vendors are available besides SCI Nevada and Tennessee? Seems like AZGFD will be back to SCI next year, they seemed to do a decent job IMO. I wouldn't mind paper apps for now on, money up front, more mistakes, harder to apply, better odds....it may sound harsh but at least I'm honest...
 

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I thought SCI did a decent job also. I'm not sure they were "let go" for being bad, I think they just got outbid? Maybe Slim knows?
 

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From what I read on the letter sent out it stated those that applied online will not have to apply again. I'll have to check for sure, because if you apply twice don't you get thrown out?
 

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No idea what happened with this vendor. For the most part the vendors are smaller operations and don't have the infrastructure to meet the demand required on the last couple of days before the deadline. Specifically the last day last hour demand that happens and blows the network up.
 

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From the AZG&F News Release

Online application process no longer available for Arizona's fall hunts
May 21, 2007
Hunters applying after May 21 must submit paper applications only;
deadline extended to June 26

The Arizona Game and Fish Department has indefinitely suspended the online application process for big game hunts, including this fall's hunts for deer, bighorn sheep, turkey, javelina and buffalo, after the department determined it could not resolve concerns that its online service provider could adequately perform under its contract.

Hunters applying after May 21 must submit a paper application form by mail. Paper applications can also be hand delivered to department offices.

The application deadline for the fall hunts has been extended from June 12 to June 26. All applications must be received by the department by 7 p.m. (MST) on June 26; postmarks don't count.

Printed application forms and 2007-08 Hunting and Trapping Regulations are available at all license dealers and department offices. They can also be downloaded from the department's Web site at azgfd.gov/draw.

"Hunters who already applied using the online process do not need to resubmit a paper application," says Harry Seck, assistant director for special services for the Arizona Game and Fish Department. "Their online applications will be valid for the fall big game draw, and we'll be mailing them letters to that effect."

Hunters submitting paper applications must remember to include their tag and application fees, and license fee, if they haven't already purchased a hunting license. Those fees can be submitted by personal check, cashier's check or money order.

Department officials suspended the online process on May 21 after canceling the contract with its online service vendor. At issue was the vendor's inability to meet a performance bond requirement, and this undermined the department's confidence in the vendor.

"We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause some of our customers," says Seck. "The department, however, could not accept what the vendor offered to resolve this issue."

The correction period for those applying with a paper form has been extended from May 30 to June 6. If a submitted paper application contains an error and is received by June 6, the department will make three attempts within a 24-hour period to notify the applicant by telephone, if a telephone number is provided on the application.

Despite the changes in the draw application process, there will be no effect on the draw itself or how it is conducted. Draw results will be available online at azgfd.gov no later than Aug. 10, and hunt permit-tags for successful applicants will be mailed out no later than Aug. 10.

Refund warrants will be mailed out no later than Aug. 24, a week later than originally scheduled.

The department will accept first-come applications for leftover tags, if available, beginning at 8 a.m. on Aug. 20, a week later than originally scheduled. First-come hopefuls must apply by mail only, using paper application forms.

The department also announced that the option to purchase hunting and fishing licenses online or by telephone has been suspended indefinitely.

"The application process may be changing, but we're doing everything we can to make sure this year's draw will run smoothly and with as little inconvenience to our customers as possible," says Seck.

More information on the fall big game draw can be found on the Arizona Game and Fish Department's Web site at azgfd.gov/draw.

I'm not sure how paying up front (possibly considerably large fees) is viewed by the AzG&FD as... "a little inconvenience to our customers"?? :rolleyes:
 
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For me I liked SCI online system. My concenrs -
" after the department determined it could not resolve concerns that its online service provider could adequately perform under its contract."
They go to paper apps. - so online apps. are gone. What do they care no contract no service- Computers- sorry deleted, no conctact. Now all paper apps. is what they draw from. This will be good to see how many online folks do draw a Tag.
I hope onliners get drawn.
I am one of those " dilly-dallies " and will be putting in paper. Even though I have not filled my Tags ( I stink at hunting :oops: ) .
 

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here u go

here is an email i got from G&F today there has been 75,000 ppl that have put in for hunts already thats alot geeze no wounder i dont get any tags :( lol well i did have a elk last year ttteee hhee the deadline is now June 26 2007 and thats good. and well here is the kicker guys you will have to let your fingers do the walking you WONT BE ABLE TO GET THE DARW ONLINE!!! this meens sitting up till 2 am lmao :hahaha: well tell u all what since i really like you i'll let you know when i hear when the darw is out i know a couple days before you all do :)

Hunters applying after May 21 must submit paper applications only;
deadline extended to June 26

The Arizona Game and Fish Department has indefinitely suspended the online application process for big game hunts, including this fall's hunts for deer, bighorn sheep, turkey, javelina and buffalo, after the department determined it could not resolve concerns that its online service provider could adequately perform under its contract.

Hunters applying after May 21 must submit a paper application form by mail. Paper applications can also be hand delivered to department offices.

The application deadline for the fall hunts has been extended from June 12 to June 26. All applications must be received by the department by 7 p.m. (MST) on June 26; postmarks don't count.

Printed application forms and 2007-08 Hunting and Trapping Regulations are available at all license dealers and department offices. They can also be downloaded from the department's Web site at azgfd.gov/draw.

"Hunters who already applied using the online process do not need to resubmit a paper application," says Harry Seck, assistant director for special services for the Arizona Game and Fish Department. "Their online applications will be valid for the fall big game draw, and we'll be mailing them letters to that effect."

Hunters submitting paper applications must remember to include their tag and application fees, and license fee, if they haven't already purchased a hunting license. Those fees can be submitted by personal check, cashier's check or money order.

Department officials suspended the online process on May 21 after canceling the contract with its online service vendor. At issue was the vendor's inability to meet a performance bond requirement, and this undermined the department's confidence in the vendor.

"We apologize for the inconvenience this may cause some of our customers," says Seck. "The department, however, could not accept what the vendor offered to resolve this issue."

The correction period for those applying with a paper form has been extended from May 30 to June 6. If a submitted paper application contains an error and is received by June 6, the department will make three attempts within a 24-hour period to notify the applicant by telephone, if a telephone number is provided on the application.

Despite the changes in the draw application process, there will be no effect on the draw itself or how it is conducted. Draw results will be available online at azgfd.gov no later than Aug. 10, and hunt permit-tags for successful applicants will be mailed out no later than Aug. 10.

Refund warrants will be mailed out no later than Aug. 24, a week later than originally scheduled.

The department will accept first-come applications for leftover tags, if available, beginning at 8 a.m. on Aug. 20, a week later than originally scheduled. First-come hopefuls must apply by mail only, using paper application forms.

The department also announced that the option to purchase hunting and fishing licenses online or by telephone has been suspended indefinitely.

"The application process may be changing, but we're doing everything we can to make sure this year's draw will run smoothly and with as little inconvenience to our customers as possible," says Seck.

More information on the fall big game draw can be found on the Arizona Game and Fish Department's Web site at azgfd.gov/draw
 
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